That play was so many things.
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed it.
But I'm not very enthusiastic about the whole thing and it didn't really stick with me.
I don't know why but maybe its the fact that when the play was over it took me 20 minutes to find my car and through all of that, I was freaking out that someone had stolen it and whether I had locked it or not and how all my stuff was in there...
haha, but anyway. The play was really interesting. I know I definitely learned a lot about global warming! I thought it was very very talented how she was able to play all those characters without stumbling or messing up the voices. That was absolutely amazing. I also thought it was witty how she connected all those things to Lysistrata. I really enjoyed how I was able to connect these things myself because of reading the play.
She really needs someone to make her big because I thought it was awesome and a great way to represent global warming because it wasn't all boring informational babble but an entertaining insight to our ultimate DOOM. :)
Goodbye Lysistrata! Hello....?
oh! and we get too keep the book! Whoo!
Sunday, November 16, 2008
Gay What?
I laughed when I read this.
When looking for videos of Lysistrata, I happened upon a video where the women make the oaths and someone comments it and said something like,
"hmm I wonder why most athenian men became gay..."
I thought that was quite funny because the women abstained from sex from the men to end the war and then this was said making me think maybe the women were even stronger because they stuck to their vows but the men didn't.
I don't know if this was true or not and if some men truly did become gay but that thought crossing my mind was a little funny.
here's a video:
disclaimer: I am not in any way trying to discriminate homosexuals of any sort nor am I a homophobic! I just thought I would blog my thoughts.
When looking for videos of Lysistrata, I happened upon a video where the women make the oaths and someone comments it and said something like,
"hmm I wonder why most athenian men became gay..."
I thought that was quite funny because the women abstained from sex from the men to end the war and then this was said making me think maybe the women were even stronger because they stuck to their vows but the men didn't.
I don't know if this was true or not and if some men truly did become gay but that thought crossing my mind was a little funny.
here's a video:
disclaimer: I am not in any way trying to discriminate homosexuals of any sort nor am I a homophobic! I just thought I would blog my thoughts.
Say what?
So apparently all the women kept to their promise and actually went along with Lysistrata's plan. This honestly was a surprise to me because of my previous hypothesis with the fact that the women would be unable to abstain from sex because it would hurt their husbands--something they are trying to stop in the first place.
So, This play definitely was not a tragedy and not as depressing as the other plays but much much more mature than what we have read in all of IB english.
I enjoyed the reading because it was finally a different view on what we usually read and the story was quite interesting. We were special in a sort of way to gain this book and its wisdom.
Our four dollars I would say were well spent. :)
So, This play definitely was not a tragedy and not as depressing as the other plays but much much more mature than what we have read in all of IB english.
I enjoyed the reading because it was finally a different view on what we usually read and the story was quite interesting. We were special in a sort of way to gain this book and its wisdom.
Our four dollars I would say were well spent. :)
12 years?!@#$%^&*
The UWM speakers were really cool...
until I heard that they were in college for TWELVE YEARS
In the beginning I was like wow, I can relate to them-they don't look too old (at all) and I became a little more confident about college and all.
Then they were like yeah "we've been in college for 12 years", I was like
W
H
A
T
?
!
Yeah, and then they further stated they had like 4 or 5 years left
I was seriously breaking down
but THEN, I remembered, "Hey! I'm not majoring in English! This is just what I'm studying now...and what they're studying!"
So I began to breathe. But what they said did open my eyes to what is coming in the near future. Its a big decision to make and they told us how they made theirs and I respect them for that.
until I heard that they were in college for TWELVE YEARS
In the beginning I was like wow, I can relate to them-they don't look too old (at all) and I became a little more confident about college and all.
Then they were like yeah "we've been in college for 12 years", I was like
W
H
A
T
?
!
Yeah, and then they further stated they had like 4 or 5 years left
I was seriously breaking down
but THEN, I remembered, "Hey! I'm not majoring in English! This is just what I'm studying now...and what they're studying!"
So I began to breathe. But what they said did open my eyes to what is coming in the near future. Its a big decision to make and they told us how they made theirs and I respect them for that.
Not the typical woman...
Just like The House of Bernarda Alba and Hedda Gabler, Lysistrata contains women that are not you're average or traditional type of women.
They carry on strong, powerful roles.
Bernarda, Hedda and Lysistrata are the most alike because they try to control all the people around them.
Some more successful than others...but they still try to manipulate and control the characters with their power-hungry images.
There so many ways to link these three books together referencing the women.
Lysistrata, however, has one big difference.
All the women band together to fight for a cause
rather just one fighting for her own cause like in The House of Bernarda Alba or Hedda Gabler.
They carry on strong, powerful roles.
Bernarda, Hedda and Lysistrata are the most alike because they try to control all the people around them.
Some more successful than others...but they still try to manipulate and control the characters with their power-hungry images.
There so many ways to link these three books together referencing the women.
Lysistrata, however, has one big difference.
All the women band together to fight for a cause
rather just one fighting for her own cause like in The House of Bernarda Alba or Hedda Gabler.
Portrayal of women?
These are quotes I found of
Portrayal of women in Lysistrata by the women's standards:
[Lysistrata] "Utter sluts, the entire sex! Will-power, nil. We're perfect raw material for Tragedy, the stuff of heroic lays. "Go to bed with a god and then get rid of the baby""--that sums us up!
"We'll paint, powder, and pluck ourselves to the last detail, and stay inside, wearing those filmy tunic that set off everything we have--and then slink up to the men."
"A horde of women, armed with househole articles, begins to pour from the Akropolis."
The portrayal of women by the men's standards:
[Commissioner] When Lysistrata says she's saving the men, "You will save us?"
"Might I ask where you women concieved this concern about War and Peace?"
[Lysistrata] "And my husband, with his customary glare, would tell me to spin my thread, or else get a clout on my head."
"What Athens needs is a man."
[Commissioner] "I categorically decline to shush for some confounded woman, who wears--as a constant reminder of congenital inferiority, an injunctionto public silence--a veil! Death before such dishonor!"
All these lines demonstrate how the men and women view the role or portrayal of women in Lysistrata.
Portrayal of women in Lysistrata by the women's standards:
[Lysistrata] "Utter sluts, the entire sex! Will-power, nil. We're perfect raw material for Tragedy, the stuff of heroic lays. "Go to bed with a god and then get rid of the baby""--that sums us up!
"We'll paint, powder, and pluck ourselves to the last detail, and stay inside, wearing those filmy tunic that set off everything we have--and then slink up to the men."
"A horde of women, armed with househole articles, begins to pour from the Akropolis."
The portrayal of women by the men's standards:
[Commissioner] When Lysistrata says she's saving the men, "You will save us?"
"Might I ask where you women concieved this concern about War and Peace?"
[Lysistrata] "And my husband, with his customary glare, would tell me to spin my thread, or else get a clout on my head."
"What Athens needs is a man."
[Commissioner] "I categorically decline to shush for some confounded woman, who wears--as a constant reminder of congenital inferiority, an injunctionto public silence--a veil! Death before such dishonor!"
All these lines demonstrate how the men and women view the role or portrayal of women in Lysistrata.
Oral Analysis
So we have this oral due
and my group has to study THEME
so broad but I think we're getting the hang of it.
We decided to look at the motifs of household and domestic articles that influence the stereotypes of women in Lysistrata.
That's a lot of work and so little time! But we're dicussing the role of women using modern, traditional, and roles seen in Lysistrata.
Things I found in Lysistrata that helps show the portrayal of women:
fabric
chores
household appliances
spindle
We'll be analyzing all these motifs and connecting them with the theme of the portrayal of women.
and my group has to study THEME
so broad but I think we're getting the hang of it.
We decided to look at the motifs of household and domestic articles that influence the stereotypes of women in Lysistrata.
That's a lot of work and so little time! But we're dicussing the role of women using modern, traditional, and roles seen in Lysistrata.
Things I found in Lysistrata that helps show the portrayal of women:
fabric
chores
household appliances
spindle
We'll be analyzing all these motifs and connecting them with the theme of the portrayal of women.
WoMEN?
I also think it's kinda funny how the play production of Lysistrata is played by all male characters. This is mainly because of a cultural reason in Greek plays.
Its funny because the play centers the role of women, especially Lysistrata and how they overpower the men in the end
however,
men play the role of women!
I tried to find some sort of video showing the play with men playing the roles but unfortunately didn't find any.
However, another culture I learned about that uses men to play the role of women in operas is the chineseeee.
I feel like I'm rude laughing, but I found a youtube video and it's just funny seeing them actually doing it.
observe:
:)
Its funny because the play centers the role of women, especially Lysistrata and how they overpower the men in the end
however,
men play the role of women!
I tried to find some sort of video showing the play with men playing the roles but unfortunately didn't find any.
However, another culture I learned about that uses men to play the role of women in operas is the chineseeee.
I feel like I'm rude laughing, but I found a youtube video and it's just funny seeing them actually doing it.
observe:
:)
Can they handle it?
After the women go ahead with Lysistrata's plan,
will they really be able to do it?
Will the men?
The women plan to be as seductive as possible to lure the men but vow to abstain, leaving them hanging.
Even if they make them go against their will, they will make it as unpleasant as possible to keep their oaths. . .
I don't think this will ever work. In this book or reality,
it's just too unreasonable and I doubt everyone will go ahead with it.
Oath or no oath.
Plus, the women were already hesistant with this plan, who knows how long they'll be able to take it. AND, the main reason they chose to do this plan is because they loved their husbands and wanted them to be safe. So abstaining from sex would in turn hurt their husbands, so wouldn't that be considered contradictory?
I don't know, but I think it's kinda funny.
will they really be able to do it?
Will the men?
The women plan to be as seductive as possible to lure the men but vow to abstain, leaving them hanging.
Even if they make them go against their will, they will make it as unpleasant as possible to keep their oaths. . .
I don't think this will ever work. In this book or reality,
it's just too unreasonable and I doubt everyone will go ahead with it.
Oath or no oath.
Plus, the women were already hesistant with this plan, who knows how long they'll be able to take it. AND, the main reason they chose to do this plan is because they loved their husbands and wanted them to be safe. So abstaining from sex would in turn hurt their husbands, so wouldn't that be considered contradictory?
I don't know, but I think it's kinda funny.
Here we go...
It's hard to keep up with this anymore!
Reading Lysistrata has been a big turn in what we usually read in IB English.
I was a little hesitant at first seeing as how everything about it is referenced to sex.
Aristophanes really is good at that. and supposedly Douglass Parker's modern translation is a little less vulgar...hahaha at that.
Anyway, we've been reading a lot of books that has been centered around women. This is one similarity. Lysistrata, fo instance, is immediately given a powerful and manipulative role.
When she calls for a meeting for all the women in Athens, she proposes an idea of how they can stop the war and get their husband's back.
"Very well,
here's the program:
Total Abstinence
from SEX!"
Despite her power and influence over the women, she doesn't reel them in very easily with this idea. They all decide that they would rather go on with the war then go with Lysistrata's plan.
"On with the war!"
Even though when she states she has a plan to end the war, they're responses were:
"You can count on me! If you need money, I'll pawn the shift off my back."
"Me, too! I'm ready to split myself right up the middlelike a mackerel, and give you half."
"Me too! I'd climb Taygetos Mountain plumb to the top to git the leastes' peek at Peace!"
"Of course we'll do it! We'd even die!"
However, after much persuasion, most women agree to this plan and the war between the sexes, begins.
Reading Lysistrata has been a big turn in what we usually read in IB English.
I was a little hesitant at first seeing as how everything about it is referenced to sex.
Aristophanes really is good at that. and supposedly Douglass Parker's modern translation is a little less vulgar...hahaha at that.
Anyway, we've been reading a lot of books that has been centered around women. This is one similarity. Lysistrata, fo instance, is immediately given a powerful and manipulative role.
When she calls for a meeting for all the women in Athens, she proposes an idea of how they can stop the war and get their husband's back.
"Very well,
here's the program:
Total Abstinence
from SEX!"
Despite her power and influence over the women, she doesn't reel them in very easily with this idea. They all decide that they would rather go on with the war then go with Lysistrata's plan.
"On with the war!"
Even though when she states she has a plan to end the war, they're responses were:
"You can count on me! If you need money, I'll pawn the shift off my back."
"Me, too! I'm ready to split myself right up the middlelike a mackerel, and give you half."
"Me too! I'd climb Taygetos Mountain plumb to the top to git the leastes' peek at Peace!"
"Of course we'll do it! We'd even die!"
However, after much persuasion, most women agree to this plan and the war between the sexes, begins.
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